what is your association with the obama campaign and president obama? >> i was his first videographer which is something i carried through the first 2 1/2 years of the white house. this last cycle did not work on campaign formally or the white house. i worked in the world of murky world of super pacs and pacs and expenditures. >> talk to us about the campaign in 2008? how did you get hooked up with the president? >> there was ad in craig's list. that is not the case. right place and right time. a friend of mind was working at cnn as documentary producer. that is more normal task in politics. as much as i was interested i was fiction filmmaker, not really first on anyone's list. she knew i was passionate about politics and wanted to get involved and hit it off with the senator and traveling inside the bubble. >> how long did you do it? was it 24/7 for you for a while? >> you know, especially on the campaign it really felt like 24/7. i was practically living in chicago when i was there about two or three days a month. so it was pretty 24/7 but actually sc